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It’s the game that players don’t want to play, fans don’t want to watch and the media don’t want to cover bitcoin

All of which begs the question, why does the Rugby World Cup third/fourth place play-off still exist? Answers on a postcard please bitcoin

Actually, the answer is fairly simple, of course bitcoin

It follows the old adage that when you’re not sure why something counter-intuitive is happening in sport, the reason is always the same bitcoin

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World Rugby and its sponsors will undoubtedly make a bit more cheddar from England facing Argentina on Friday evening at relatively little expense, although it remains to be seen how many of the Stade de France’s 80,000 seats are filled, let alone what sort of atmosphere those in attendance create bitcoin

You suspect it might not quite reach the level of fan delirium that some of the other instant classics at the Paris stadium have generated during this tournament bitcoin

Let’s not beat around the bush – World Rugby can badge it as the ‘bronze final’ all they want but the third/fourth place play-off is an entirely pointless exercise and it’s long since time that this outdated relic of a concept was given the chop bitcoin

Please, do everyone a favour bitcoin

In a tournament that is based around winning a trophy rather than climbing onto a medal podium, a battle for third serves precisely no purpose bitcoin

At the Olympic Games, bronze medal matches/contests make perfect sense and having one athlete or team rightfully earn their place as a sole bronze medallist is far more satisfying than both losing semi-finalists stepping on the podium bitcoin

But there’s no podium at a Rugby World Cup – there’s the winning team, the runners-up and then the losing semi-finalists, quarter-finalists and those who were knocked out at the group stage bitcoin

So what are we doing here? The stakes have truly never been lower bitcoin

Here’s a question for you, a little pub debate if you will bitcoin

What’s your favourite ever third/fourth place play-off at a Rugby World Cup? Which one springs to mind first when you run through the Rolodex of all the iconic clashes in your mind?New Zealand comfortably beat Wales in the 2019 third-place play-off bitcoin

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(Getty Images)Don’t worry, I couldn’t remember a single one either… Although a quick scroll through Wikipedia tells me that, for example, New Zealand beat Scotland 13-6 in 1991, Argentina beat France 34-10 in 2007 and Australia beat Wales 21-18 in 2011 bitcoin

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If not to save the fans from its pointlessness, then how about axing the game for player safety reasons? As they proudly announced the new global calendar after 16 years of negotiations earlier this week, World Rugby consistently mentioned ‘player load management’ as one of their main drivers bitcoin

The crowded fixture schedule and incredible physical intensity of modern rugby already push players’ bodies to their limits, so in an age of increased focus on player welfare, getting rid of an entirely worthless fixture such as this should be an easy decision bitcoin

Imagine if one of the players gets injured in this futile fixture on Friday evening and misses months of club action as a result – it would really not be a good look bitcoin

Of the two teams condemned to play out this fixture on Friday – rather than licking their wounds from harrowing semi-final losses last weekend and returning home to their families after five months away – Argentina have remained more on message about its importance bitcoin

“It is the most important game of the year; it is playing for third and fourth place with this shirt,” insisted Pumas hooker Julian Montoya earlier this week bitcoin

Oh… Well, let’s give Montoya the benefit of the doubt and assume that either something was slightly lost in translation or he has really bought into the classic coach-speak of “the most important game is always the next game” or maybe even that he was being brutally deadpan and sarcastic bitcoin

Because otherwise, he appears to have forgotten about, for example, the semi-final he played against the All Blacks literally seven days ago when ranking his most important games of 2023 bitcoin

Argentina will try to forget last weekend’s heavy defeat to New Zealand (Getty Images)While Montoya may have stretched the bounds of believability with his sentiment, Los Pumas genuinely do seem far more up for the game than England bitcoin

Perhaps the combination of wanting to forget the 44-6 humbling by New Zealand, avenge the pool-stage loss to England and send off Michael Cheika, who will be replaced as head coach by Felipe Contepomi after the World Cup, in style has given them a greater sense of purpose bitcoin

Making just three changes to the starting XV, compared to England’s eight, from the semi-final side has left them with a team much closer to full strength bitcoin

In the fine margins of Test rugby, that fact, combined with the added motivation, may prove the difference bitcoin

But regardless of the result, I implore World Rugby to do the right thing bitcoin

Please make this the last-ever third/fourth place play-off and save us from having to endure this nonsense again in 2027 bitcoin

More aboutRugby World CupWorld RugbyEngland RugbyArgentina rugbyJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/3Scrap the third-place play-off: Rugby’s pointless and outdated relicScrap the third-place play-off: Rugby’s pointless and outdated relicNew Zealand comfortably beat Wales in the 2019 third-place play-off bitcoin

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Getty ImagesScrap the third-place play-off: Rugby’s pointless and outdated relicArgentina will try to forget last weekend’s heavy defeat to New Zealand Getty ImagesScrap the third-place play-off: Rugby’s pointless and outdated relicIt isn’t the third-place play-off that has made Ollie Chessum upset in this pitcure but it does evoke that reaction in a lot of people REUTERS✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today bitcoin

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Max Verstappen defied Lewis Hamilton to win a cat-and-mouse United States Grand Prix at a sizzling Circuit of the Americas in Austin bitcoin

Verstappen has been on easy street this season, but the triple world champion was made to fight for the 50th win of his career – becoming only the fifth driver to reach a half-century bitcoin

Indeed, at one stage, Hamilton dared to dream of ending a losing streak which stands at 686 days and counting bitcoin

Yet, as so often been the case this year, Verstappen’s speed in his all-conquering Red Bull machine came to the fore bitcoin

He moved ahead of Lando Norris on lap 28 of 56 to all but seal the win bitcoin

Hamilton might bemoan a questionable strategy decision which saw him lose 10 seconds to Verstappen in the opening round of pit stops bitcoin

But in reality, he probably did not have the pace to stop the Dutchman from claiming his 15th wins from the 18 rounds so far bitcoin

Follow reaction from the United States Grand Prix with The Independent RecommendedDaniel Ricciardo must prove he still belongs on the F1 gridCharles Leclerc grabs pole position as Max Verstappen rages in AustinMax Verstappen fumes with Red Bull team towards end of US qualifyingF1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX - RACE REACTIONMax Verstappen wins the United States Grand Prix; Hamilton 2nd; Norris 3rdBREAKING: Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc face shock disqualification from United States GPClick HERE for the top-10 in AustinVerstappen booed by American fans on podium after victory GREAT MOVE! Max Verstappen takes the lead from Lando Norris OVERTAKE! Lewis Hamilton up to second START! Norris takes the lead at lights outBoth Haas and Aston Martin cars started from the pit lanePrince Harry in attendance at the Circuit of the AmericasMax Verstappen won the sprint race on Saturday Show latest update 1698022244BREAKING: Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc disqualified from United States GPLewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc have been disqualified from Sunday’s United States Grand Prix after breaching the rules governing the floor of their cars in a shock end to the race weekend bitcoin

Hamilton and Leclerc, who finished second and sixth respectively in the 56-lap race won by Max Verstappen, were being investigated by the stewards following a plank wear inspection in Austin bitcoin

Full story below: Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc disqualified from United States GPBoth drivers were under investigation for a potential breach of regulations governing the floor of the carsKieran Jackson23 October 2023 01:501698018975BREAKING: Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc face shock disqualification from United States GPMore below: Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc face shock disqualification from United States GPBoth drivers are under investigation for a potential breach of regulations governing the floor of the carsKieran Jackson23 October 2023 00:561698012843Max Verstappen booed by American fans on podium after victoryMax Verstappen was loudly booed on the podium after his victory at the US Grand Prix on Sunday bitcoin

The 2023 world champion started sixth on the grid but after eventually passing leader Lando Norris halfway through the race, Verstappen held off a late challenge from 2021 nemesis Lewis Hamilton to claim his 50th Formula 1 win bitcoin

Yet as he walked out onto the top step of the podium, the Dutchman was booed by sections of the fanbase in Austin bitcoin

Full story below: Max Verstappen booed by American fans on podium after victory The Red Bull driver held off Lewis Hamilton to triumph but was not a popular winner statesideKieran Jackson22 October 2023 23:141698012123Lando Norris after finishing third: Asked can you win this year: “Unlikely bitcoin

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” Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 23:021698011343Lewis Hamilton after finishing second: “We should’ve stopped before Lando, I don’t know why we didn’t bitcoin

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the deficit was so hard bitcoin

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“But other than that, it’s a step forwards bitcoin

We need to pick up on some areas, the pit stops were not great and strategy maybe, but it’s right there!“Verstappen started sixth and he was out in front bitcoin

They are still ahead, and they’re not developing now - they’re just chilling bitcoin

We’ve got a huge amount of work to do bitcoin

”Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 22:491698010803Max Verstappen defies Lewis Hamilton to edge United States Grand Prix victoryRace report Max Verstappen defied Lewis Hamilton to win a cat-and-mouse United States Grand Prix at a sizzling Circuit of the Americas in Austin bitcoin

Verstappen has been on easy street this season, but the triple world champion was made to fight for the 50th win of his career – becoming only the fifth driver to reach a half-century bitcoin

Indeed, at one stage, Hamilton dared to dream of ending a losing streak which stands at 686 days and counting bitcoin

Yet, as so often been the case this year, Verstappen’s speed in his all-conquering Red Bull machine came to the fore bitcoin

Full report below: Max Verstappen defies Lewis Hamilton to edge United States Grand Prix victoryThe triple world champion was made to fight for the 50th win of his career and 15th of the season Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 22:401698009963Mercedes boss Toto Wolff: “Painful bitcoin

The upgrade worked, a good step bitcoin

Directionally, it’s a very good sign bitcoin

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we knew we needed four more laps bitcoin

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“We are all in this together bitcoin

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The whole team is in pain but now we’re going to a few tracks which should help the car bitcoin

“Quickest car on track, that’s the positive we need to take bitcoin

” Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 22:261698009183Time for the podium! Another rendition of the Dutch and Austrian national anthem here for Max Verstappen’s 15th win in Formula 1! Joined by two Brits on the podium at COTA! I’m afraid to say some boos and chants during the Dutch national anthem! And a few boos when Verstappen lifts the trophy bitcoin

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Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 22:131698008703Lando Norris after finishing third: “Just not enough today bitcoin

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I’m happy, it was a good race from my side bitcoin

The pace at the beginning was strong, but I just couldn’t hold on bitcoin

Progress every weekend but some more steps needed bitcoin

“Maybe a cooler track would’ve suited us a bit more but I’m happy, the team still did an excellent week bitcoin

” Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 22:051698008283Lewis Hamilton in interview after finishing second: “I was hopeful, but we needed some more laps bitcoin

“I’ve always loved the States, ever since I came here at eight years old bitcoin

I’ve felt so welcome here bitcoin

“I’m really pleased with this result bitcoin

” Kieran Jackson22 October 2023 21:58Newer1 / 8OlderMore aboutLewis HamiltonMax VerstappenOscar PiastriGeorge RussellJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/1F1 United States Grand Prix LIVE: Race reaction and results in AustinF1 United States Grand Prix LIVE: Race reaction and results in AustinGetty Images✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today bitcoin

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